One of the recent Pakistani surplus releases featured a range of No4T and their replacement parts - now circulating in European, Australian and USA markets. Manufacturers in North America did not use Dispersal Codes. The No. 1 scabbards. Known Issues: PA 3rd Person broken (Wont fix) Tape clipping. Your serial No. Home / Firearm Parts and Accessories / Rifle Parts / Lee Enfield #4 MK1. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:33, Post Along with the manufacturers name both the date of manufacture and the type and mark of the rifle is also shown. History, development, service, specifications, pictures and 3D model. The first photo below is of a Hollands installed cheek piece on a 1944 scopeless rifle - its position, form and fit is per the as-new standard. For example, No. This indicates the length of the bolt head with the larger numbers being the longer bolt heads. If you are slightly less lucky you may have a rifle, scope and accessories that have been used and "improved" by private owners and tinkerers, Here is how to spot original features, errant ones and simple techniques to step towards your chosen rifle impression - original factory - war years service - post war British service and post war International service - organized by parts group: Wrist markings: I was talking with a fellow enthusiast about BSA Shirley using electro-penciled serial numbers in production and so took some photos to explore this: Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1945 No4T on the left and an "active service" No4T on the right that had its last service with India, other than the metal being painted with lumpy glossy black paint it is predominantly unchanged, On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps through the blackened surface. The Lee-Enfield rifle was first adopted by the British as a military arm in 1895 and . More likely then not,it started life at the Long Branch plant. These rifles have not been available in original condition for decades. US$40 (4 bids) The front loop is for the forward hand - I like to use it to press the hand against the fore stock to enhance that firm fore-end grip that Enfield like - this front loop can also be adjusted for length to allow the right tautness from biceps to rifle body when in position. Had a look at Skennerton, and did not find much. There are almost 2 years of rifle production that did not receive this triangular sling swivel at the factory and would have it added in service - especially prolonged Cold War British service - it is still possible to encounter a rifle that was an early discharge / loss that never received the triangular swivel update. Weight unloaded is Nine pounds even (I weighed it!) No4 Mk1 - DP - A safety lesson 2012: A DP marked rifle fired without first being completely dismantled or inspected after purchase by a new owner. A listing of British and Commonwealth bayonet markings is available on Bryan Browns Old Military Markings Web site. !o, I am hoping to get some help confirming or disproving my theory about this 1963 Indian furbished Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* I bought a few days ago. The Sante Fe in the center was completely polished and blued by them to make a premium scoped sporter - they removed the original serial from the wrist and added their own by stamping through the bluing (original barrel serial is still present) this rifle may have picked up the fabricated safety spring at Santa Fe. Two Swiss codes are noted. . You must log in or register to reply here. The butt stock above was taken from a real BSA No4T - it is clearly a service replacement - but not by a British armorer - the serial number for the rifle is stamped with 2 sets of numbers - on 3/8" and the other 1/4" - rather crookedly. I. Since the Government arms factories were already running at capacity producing rifles and machine guns, private contracts were let for bayonet production. 4Mk. The other makers were much less prolific. The Lee Enfield No 4 Rifle Mk 1 was produced by a variety of different manufacturers in England. Markings on Lee Enfield rifles No4 serial numbers too. These specific letter prefixes were assigned to ROF Fazakerley and BSA Shirley, the only two manufacturers of the No5 rifle, this ensured that there would be no duplicate serials during the production run of No5s. II* socket forgings. However, the Rijkswacht (Gendarmerie) used the No. Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century, British No. It retains the 10 round box detachable magazine, however the largest change to the rifle was the addition of a rear aperture sight. P.S.S. I and some Prince-Smith examples exhibiting rough tool marks. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a British viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Prince-Smith examples. Serial Numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Identification, Serial Number and Manufacturer Information Locations. The used value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($61.94) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $563.89 . The No. So BSA Shirley, that produced the No4 rifles was designated "M47C" (Midlands region, sequential supplier no 47, factory C). Singer and other producers (Savage has been observed). Seen in the picture above are the places where the serial number and manufacturer can be found. Savage was the only other maker to follow Singer's pattern of marking the spring plunger. 1 in 1939. 1 Enfield rifle was adopted by the United Kingdom in 1941. Something that looks like 12C456 or 12L345. In the British war time contract scheme there were 2 phases of demarcation - early / pre-war marks, and later regionalized contractor codes, For mid 1943 and down you are seeking the early war markings from Singer (SM), after that seek the regional producer code (S69 - for Southern region, 69th contractor). If it has a lateral screw through the back of the forend, it is either a post war production Mk.2, or an earlier mark that has been rebuilt. BSA from 1943 to 1945 was receiving fore wood and buttstock sets from Sykes Limited in walnut - these were marked S.L. Here, he explains their advantages and disadvantagesand how to use them safely. Guns, Parts and Accessories Quick Shopper, WTS/WTB/WTT (Want to Sell, Buy or Trade) Forum, Appraisals, Fakery, Dispute Resolution & Mediation Forum. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. The factory site was razed to accommodate (apartment) flats in the mid-1980s. 0000007555 00000 n The company disappeared in 1970. A specific chapter in the new 'Lee-Enfield Rifles' update of the 1992 'Lee-Enfield Story' is devoted to Serial Numbers. The factory eventually went on to produce cylinder heads for Davey-Paxman landing craft engines. So it figures that the right S51 is almost always from Hollands and there are less of them due to service attrition than there are real No4Ts that can evidence them. The company was established on the bombed out site of the South East London Indoor Sports Club (destroyed in the blitz bombings of 194041), solely to make bayonets. Israeli domestic made scope brackets are unique. So they languished deep in the Weedon bunkers. Genuine early BSA marked T rear sight (reconditioned / polished scale face): When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) An example of a viewer's mark "75TZ" is pictured at left. The "circle-PSK" marking is somewhat of a mystery and is seldom encountered. This is stamped on the band: 1943 A L 1 1385 Also on the rear barrel band it is stamped VNS with a little crown underneath of it and there is an I stamped on the front sight guard. or Best Offer. He does mention the stylised 'M' is rare compared to the other factory markings encountered. 4 Mk. Many minor variations in parts are present across the different manufacturers and for the different years that the rifles were produced. The frog measures 4.875in. Snipers in the field (Europe) were prove to take a Bren length webbing sling and leave the 1907 Leather behind. Thank you for the welcome. During the war, the No. 3. With the bayonet fixed, the helve was used to probe for land mines. Is, until the government created the dispersal codes in 1943. The "S" was added to indicate the need for this re-zeroing as a subsequent step. Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 T Sniper Rifle (reproduction). In practice and service, the size, position and shape of the cheekpiece was altered to suite the needs of the snipe that the rifle was designated for - these are an interesting study within themselves. Three firms produced the No. Four scabbard designs saw significant use with the No. In the future, with a bit of luck, i should be a position to purchase an active Lee Enfield No 4. This example was manufactured post-War for Belgium. This lowered costs and allowed manufacture by subcontractors. An additional 1944 Wrist / Action stamping group - an excellent condition example. Our Price: 295.00: Gunner Points: 29: Stock Info: 1 In Stock: Parker Hale 8/53 Lee Enfield No4 rear sight (PH1) . Officially adopted in July1940 as the: Tab, Securing, Bayonet No. 3. and N74 - sometimes both in the same instance (pus inspection / receiving marks). 2. The Belgian Army transitioned to the FN Model 1949 rifle beginning in 1951. Stock No: 7B/546 I picked this Enfield up for 250$. Here are 2 genuine early Singer produced sights - the SM 41 example was more correct to apply to my 1941 MalTby: Note the all blackened finish - dark and matt - typical of war time efforts at H&H. Recent research by Graham Priest determined that "TRM.1", "TRM.2", and "TRM 3" identify the Tinsley Rolling Mills Co. Ltd. of Sheffield. Interesting feedback, here are all other markings that I can find. II* bayonets. Canadian Arsenals produced a run of approximately 5,000 No. 0000002950 00000 n by Steve Hoog 22 Mar 2012, 20:21, Post The No. The socket is fabricated by welding together seven sheet steel stampings, eliminating the socket forging process altogether. Thanks. 4Mk. Other than the war time Hollands originals, some of these commercial sling swivels have been retrofitted onto Npo4Ts - probably in private hands. 4 Mk. The easiest way to identify a "Jungle Carbine" rifle is to look for the markings on the left hand side of the receiver; a genuine No. not 8.8 Barrel length is 25 1/4 inches, not 25 2 inches LEE ENFIELD NO. Thanks to inter-war development, an improved and simplified design was waiting in the wings, and the No. over S376, inside a rectangle. This rifle retained most of the overall design feature of the earlier model, including the 30 barrel length. I read that BO would indicate early 1944. "S" xb```b``^X,{%NIt#@4qz6lR9A!}klL61M?&`8p8feD'J 5'J1i&u K08|uN1+|^ T 5O.8,uM^rJV`[X;%!..@ ;~]m2G%Ey,' XtnxQc9!Lm1_h 4Mk. The Canopy in Ellicott City - Totally Cool With OC, Still openings for this Saturday's York IWLA Funshoot, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. So usually to get the old barrel off I cut a groove relief just forward of the receiver to relieve the pressure. BO 12151 (the five digit no. Scabbard (frog stud): "Bg" over Crown-JF proofmark. 2 mm. 4 Mk. The rifle was a No. These were supplied to the British under the Lend-Lease Act. 4 Mk. Early blued steel mouthpiece marked: "No. II bayonets from 19421944. The No 4, Mk I* Lee-Enfield: Introduction - YouTube 0:00 / 22:26 Introduction The No 4, Mk I* Lee-Enfield: Introduction britishmuzzleloaders 83.5K subscribers Subscribe 10K 598K views. 0000001570 00000 n Call us toll free: +1 888-744-0066. Free shipping on many items | Browse your favorite brands | affordable prices. Don't shoot till you see the whites of their thighs. Another dimension is whether to use (or if it is fitted) to include the front trigger guard triangular sling swivel (included in the factory build from Nov 1944 onwards and added by armourers as found after). It is essentially an updated N0. 4Mk. The Parker HAle PH215 series triangular sling swivel is "High Tower" and will have the triangle clear the trigger housing loop to spin 360 degrees - these are also typically bright blued or blacked. I bayonet was short, light, sturdy, and unappealing. The bayonet and socket were one solid forging. The Savage-Stevens plant in Chicopee Falls was where New England Westinghouse produced Mosin-Nagant M1891 rifles in 19151917 under contract to the Imperial Russian government. Based on a 1944 Maltby rifle. The schools were also populated by inter-bellum target shooters who had already experienced the Parker Hale and other specialist center / front trigger guard screw replacement sling swivels and various format canvas / webbing slings. On the opposite side of the RFI 1963 stamp,is there a serial number? So I would say the "S" mark can be used for verification of a real rifle but it is not the main course of study. Sujet: Re: Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 Aujourd'hui 20:28: Pour en possder une, j'ai une tikka T3x tac en 308 , et 600m ft un temps les rsultats taient prometteurs . Fazakerley also continued to produce the rifle for foreign contracts after the war. 3. Chambering is .303 British caliber, 7.7 x 56mm. Subcontractors produced many of the No. not at all lol, from the markings I can find and other details would you guys say it's a long branch with a savage magazine? Yet again, once the sequence of numbers caped out letter prefixes were used to start the sequence over. 1 rifle), but changes were made to the. II* socket bayonet was used in Iraq during the Second World War and by the Iraqi Army after the end of British occupation in 1947. ,DTvb5@ kg:v%A$6%#,6J,q]+9 V ,,mD$\"L3-p0$z2 cC+`i`,pIt jns;Nt=_e9AA r ^G? Free shipping for many products! It was the British Army's standard rifle from its official adoption in 1895 until 1957. (21mm.) Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for British Lee Enfield No. British infantry rifle Lee -Enfield No.4 Mark 1 of WW2. VNS mark represents "Viners Ltd. Sheffield, England" a subcontractor of Enfield parts. 4Mk. 0000002978 00000 n by gruff27 23 Mar 2012, 11:37, Post I've looked all over the internet and I can't find any info. To subscribe to the magazine,visit theNRA membership page here and selectAmerican Rifleman as your member magazine. Lee-Enfield rifle 303 No.4 Mark 1. 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