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In most classrooms to encourage donations, the nuns pitted the boys against the girls. I got JUG in high school - Jesuits a few times. You didnt buy one with the $5.00. We all started reminiscing together as if we attended the same school! When I was young, in South Philadelphia, I have memories of collecting for Trees for Israel and the Allied Jewish Appeal. It is so very true the whole Pagan baby scam my mom complained to the principal about how us kids were made to feel guilty for not coming up with the cash every day some of the richer kids would buy 10s of these Pagan babies I think we came close to sponsoring an entire small tribe in those days, Funny as hell reading this story great memories! between boys and girls. And yet sometimes the answer was as simple as getting down on hands and knees to join the woman scrubbing the floor, to learn her technique and listen to her story. To some of us Catholic school old-timers , pagan babies is a secret code , I guess, that gets us entry into some somewhat sardonic memories . The Holy Childhood Association got many of the basics right: it introduced me to global realities of poverty and need, to notions of privilege and responsibility. Cary Cox stole a five dollar bill from his mothers purse when we were in fourth grade so that Cary could pick the name of the next pagan baby himself . "Pagan Babies": Orphan Imagery in the Passionist China Collection and the Emergence of American Sympathy for the Chinese in the Early Twentieth Century Margaret Kuo Published 3 July 2019 History The Chinese Historical Review The teacher had a stack of them . FYI : My granny was raised in Sterling . The Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii) Jason Woycke 9 subscribers Subscribe 62 Share 2.2K views 5 years ago A compilation of live footage of the Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii). They were called pagan babies, certainly not the most sensitive appellation and one that would never be used today. I dont think that the money went sideways. decided it was no longer a good way to raise money for Catholic missions. I named all my pagan babies after my cousin Karen, who had died at age 2. But in 1969 the names we fourth graders favored were names like Ringo and Twiggy. On the other hand, the central charitable action of my generationsaving and naming pagan babieswas clearly a fiction (I mourn those African Karens), one that reinforced my American sense of exceptionalism and arrogance. The concept, When Oblate Father Andrew Small asked who remembered them at the inaugural World Mission Dinner in New York, a few hands went up, mostly belonging to people with gray hair. Arlington Catholic Herald200 N. Glebe Rd.Suite 615Arlington, VA 22203703-841-2590800-377-0511, Website Design and Development by New Target, Funeral and public viewing set for murdered Bishop David OConnell, Catholics, are you going to confession? Years later, as adults, my younger sister, Patricia, confessed to sneaking into my room and using a butter knife to weasel the coins out of the bottle to buy candy and, yes, pagan babies. At every Catholic school in those days were collections to save unbaptized children not taught about God (Pagan Babies). How many people who raised their hands the first time were still in contact with their pagan babies? - Kathy F. . Read 283 reviews from the world's largest community for readers. The part of your story that really rang true was the fierce competition between either the girls & boys in the same classroom, or amongst each entire class in the same grade (e.g. We did that too. Marymount ? If they're actually disabled, they can file the application with the city to get a handicap spot installed. Each time I hope to combine for them the Holy Childhoods call of responsibility with the lessons I learned in Guaymas: the difference between pity and solidarity, the complexity of the global structures that create poverty and need, and the smallness of our efforts at making a difference. If memory serves, it shows a black child being led by a (white) boy and girl towards a (white) Jesus, while two (white*) nuns look on approvingly. But I remember that we did get certificates sent to us from the Society for the Propagation of the Faith with the babys name. How great ! collections to save unbaptized children not taught about God (Pagan Babies). Exorcist Responds to Sensationalized Russell Crowe Exorcism Film on Father Amorth, Ash Wednesday Breaks All the Rules of Modern ChurchThink, and More Great Links! Sorry man , no money for you . The certificates had a picture of a white little toddler sitting down with little black toddlers. grade 6A, 6B, 6C,). My first lessons in social justice came through saving pagan babies. Named mine Margaret Ann. with any faith. And so I traveled to Guaymas in the Sonoran desert expecting to accomplish great things. Pictures of Cherub-faced Indian, African, and Asian babies graced small cardboard collection boxes given to each child. Over 50, attended Catholic schools from 1970-77 in Latin America. I think it was to put on envelopes for Christmas cards? Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. DUDE! . on a regular basis. Youre stirring up memories . Ill bet you remember those . I guess this went on everywhere. You must have JavaScript enabled to use this form. I specifically remember this from eighth grade in 1960. Ransom and Baptism? Band Name!! I also remember buying 10 cent stamps that went into a book. Pagan Babies is a 2000 crime novel written by Elmore Leonard.He first used Pagan Babies as the name of a rock band in his 1981 novel Split Images.. In fourth grade I was finally old enough to see the movies they showedwith shots of real lepers and starving children. Father Terry Dunn thought he'd seen everything on the mean streets of Detroit, but that was before he went on a little retreat to Rwanda to evade a tax-fraud indictment. : Its a mystery . We'd all suggest names, and then vote for the one we liked best. The Mary list is endless. And of course, she knew that no pagan baby was coming to stay at 159 Findlay Avenue, no matter what I said. Reminiscing about St. Amelias brings back many other memories. I cant remember now if they ever answered Charlies question . My grandmother gave me $5 to buy my So it had to be pretty official, like our nun just couldnt pull a certificate out of her drawer and fill in the name.no, I think that it had to be signed by the big Catholic mucky-mucks. We didnt get a chance to vote on a name because he could name him himself. The Biden administration has already announced it plans to fight any ruling against the FDAs approval of mifepristone. If you register with MISSIO by noon February 2, 2017, youll be entered for a chance to join the Pontifical Mission Societies on their pilgrimage to Rome in May 2017, and an audience with Pope Francis. Hello Mike. I seriously want to start a band now, just so I can name us that. I dont remember the certificates , but , yeah , they came from on-high somewhere in the Archdiocese ( we believed , at least ) . I think you had to be in Catholic school around 1960 or earlier to have been exposed to the term pagan babies. Id forgotten that the rest of it was to ransom them. Now they're in together for a bigger payoff than either could finagle alone. You missed the naming and the fold-out box ! That summer in Guaymas, I learned that people in poverty needed more than goodwill, and that social justice was not a simple matter of collecting spare change and sending it off to the right folks. Each pagan baby cost five dollars. I remember those statues . A lot of people never knew what I was Hopefully its from the old days. Drawing its title from Hinckle's parochial education in San Francisco's Sunset District, "Ransoming Pagan Babies: The Selected Writings of Warren Hinckle" released by Berkeley nonprofit. HELLO!!!!!!!! My dad was in the Navy out in the Pacific in WWII . Fogogo to mention JUG for bad behavior- Justice Under God, also at St. Ignatius College Prep JMJ was replaced with AMGD all for the glory of God. And in pagan lands, there are pagan babies. (After Vatican II beanies were no longer necessary.) When I was in grade school prior to ~1961 in Catholic school, we collected money (our little pittances of coins) for some vague, needy group covered by the catch-all term pagan babies.* Were collecting money for the pagan babies?* As I recall, there were little paper boxes that we saved our coins in and then turned them in to someone periodically. Other notable guests included Cardinal Sean P. OMalley of Boston; Bishop Bejoy N. DCruze of Sylhet, Bangladesh; actor Andy Garcia, who stars in the upcoming film For Greater Glory; and Noel Campbell, who rode Amtrak for three days from the Coeur DAlene Indian Reservation in northwest Idaho to attend the event. Some became doctors and lawyers and schoolteachers and others became lay catechists, sisters and priests, operating clinics and schools, colleges and seminaries, Father Small explained, and let me tell you something they need your help today as much as they needed it 30 and 40 years ago.. own pagan baby! Yes , of course , a money-raising strategy that tricked all of us kids I wonder now about our parents . The rise of AI will generate cultural content designed not to be original or even to say anything, but to produce, like a drug, the same experience, again and again. My friend Sue, a Lutheran by way of Methodism cant get head around buying pagan babies. But I assured her that my Karen went straight to heavenMonsignor had said so and celebrated a Mass of the angels in white vestments rather than the usual funeral Mass in her honor. This is hilarious, love this! Might make a nice story . What gyp. Gina Cascone grew up in central New Jersey and is the author of Pagan Babies, Mother's Little Helper, and coauthor of twenty-six books for children. Thanks for the comment ! except the last. monetization of National Catholic Register RSS feeds is strictly prohibited. which is how he found your story!!! . We went to Blessed Sacrament Grade School in LaCrosse and pagan baby buying was fierce and rampant; Within grades, boy / girl and between grades. I thoroughly enjoy your posts. babies. Needless to say, Zachary stuck. Wow. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ (Gal 3:27). The price of adoption was five dollars, and - Mary Ellen M. I love the four Beatles pagan babies idea and the adultery thing ! JMJwow, totally forgot about that. Maryknollers, Franciscans, or Missionaries of Charity, these men and women told riveting tales of adventure and hardship. You know the drill . Dan, Loved your post on the Pagan Babies! Remembering a Different A-to-Z Challenge | No Facilities. . I went to Catholic grade school at St. Amelias for 8 years. The book may rally his followers, but it wont add to their number. Other Brookliners Remember Adopting I knew immediately what you were referring to even though we never went to church & I went to public school. Remember JMJ ? I too went to Catholic School in CA, and we definitely collected money for the Pagan babies. When I was in second grade I ransomed my own pagan baby and named her Pauline Anne after St Theresas oldest sister. But, in fact, the entire program was rooted in a sense of solidarity and charity in the broadest understanding of the word. He was a bartender later in life , at least for awhile . Youre too late. Anyone have proof the Catholic Church ( the dedicated Nuns ) were able to get the pagan baby money to its intended recipients? I think it went to the missionaries (the seminary for The Society of the Divine Word was just two miles or so away, and we were taught by the Missionary Sisters of the Holy Ghost). People needed food, water, medical care, and were looking to us to step up and provide it. Your class picked out a name for the child, and the Catholic church baptized the baby with that name into the Catholic faith. Maybe it was a Toledo thing?! PJ. There were no poor pagan babies to be pitied in Guaymas. I should have asked them if they had ever run into any pagan named Herman . After about a year it didnt seem to grow as fast but I put it down to my own spending habits. Yup. That bring back memories!" As for the naming part, while it seemed charming at the time, if it really were true, how outrageous for us to name an African baby Mary Margaret or other Western name. Whether or not they converted is one thing, giving up their cultural ties is quite another. I told some Catholic friends about collecting money for Pagan Babies at Dover (Ohio) St. Josephs and they had never heard of such a thing but Im sure we did it. Many of those kids still have their adoption certificate, like Bob In the background it shows mosques, pagodas, etc, all the better to drive home the horrors wed saved him from. This is a serious problem. The teacher lobbied for her but I still refused . Love Your Sister Then I could choose the bike I wanted . "We thought that some nun in China would go out and select a baby of the proper gender, however, rings true today. She was managing editor and co-author of Ascension Press bestselling Amazing Grace series. I think the Catholic church needed better PR people back then. I also remember something about a bridge class voted on names. I keep asking her where MY money was! I served lunch to old people and I received so many compliments from the old people that I thought that I was a goner . An interactive website will feature video interviews with some of the former pagan babies, now nuns, priests and catechists in their homelands. Bingo, and thanks. Sports. Good luck. When the principal had signed on to a candy sale fundraising scheme because the promotion companys salesman gave him a stereo system as a gift to grease the wheels , the salesman spoke to the students for a few minutes at the morning assembly . Servant of God Mother Mary Lange and the Rich History of Black Catholic Religious Orders, Ukrainian Soldier Saved by Praying the Rosary, Priest Recounts, As We Forgive: Lenten Pastoral Note From Archbishop Samuel Aquila of Denver, A Lasting Trail of Light: The Witness of Pedro Ballester. What kind of horrid name is that for a babypagan or not?! Im glad youu got a kick out of it . We sold The Tidings , which was the L.A. Archdiocese newspaper , and there were prizes . Theres the priority. We were never quite sure what a pagan was . Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, 5.00 together, we got to buy and name a pagan baby. Bonus question: Did children in Europe collect coins for the pagan babies? Im sure thats where the money went. One of my fellow employees is reading a book called Pagan Babies. I think we were the hope, somehow, for all the people who were seeing us and a hope for the country, recalls Bishop Christian Carlassare of the nine-day pilgrimage to meet Pope Francis. We can smile at it now at perhaps how silly it was, Father Small said. Thanks for the comment . Coins. Pingback: A Poor Church For the Poor | Vox Nova, Pingback: Remembering a Different A-to-Z Challenge | No Facilities, This was too much fun. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. Maybe the program was intended , at least partially , to teach us generosity . we got prizes if we gave X amount, but I never got a prize. There were milk cartons to hold the money. It seems hard to believe, but according to the National Adopt A Pagan Baby - 1959. And I think that if you bought your own Pagan Baby you got to take the certificate home. Especially loud clunkers could turn heads and ignite giggles. Patti and her husband, Mark, live in North Dakota where they raised their 10 children. If you know tell me . The idea was to collect money from students , nickels and dimes , for charity . Its a mystery! ago. It seemed like an honorable thing, he explained. The campaign will celebrate the legacy of love and support the program offered, and recall the babies with whom American children once connected through the Holy Childhood Association. As a first grade student at St.Aloysius in Wilkes-Barre, PA circa 1969, pagan babies were part of our extreme Catholic instruction. The poor pagan was already named Herman , right ? My Catholic neighborhood friends and I would have a carnival like MD carnivals sponsored by Jerry Lewis. THANK YOU for truly capturing a historical phenomenon! Never heard the term. Pagan Babies is classic crime fiction from the master of suspense, New York Times bestselling author Elmore Leonard. Right, but there must be some type of guidelines that must be met for that to happen. What does it look like to be conquered by the fire of Christs gaze, as Benedict XVI described? Those were the good old days , eh ? Never knew it meant Justice under God though . It really didnt have anything to do with Jesus, per se. Biographies are listed below: 1. There is in the heart of every priest, and I hope in the heart of every Christian, the longing to be a missionary, to be a proclaimer of the good news to the ends of the earth, he said. Bury it beneath your front step or porch during a full moon. It barely rings a bell hearing something about pagan babies. And one final thought: we cant always get our loved ones to practice the faith, but we can offer our alms up for their conversions while benefiting others. Sign-up for E-NewsletterGet Register Updates sent daily or weeklyto your inbox. 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